Pro Tools Delay Compensation 197samples?

Hi - Stemcell v1 had zero sample dly compensation. Using v2 only using the HP filters (with and without redirect) and nothing else gives a dly sample of 197. Is there a reason for this if we’re not using True Peak or any of the processing but only HP filters? I prefer to keep my post mix templates as close to zero as possible with only 2 upmix plugins giving any dly compensation.

If you’re keeping v1 around, is there an advantage to using v2 if we’re not using all of the processing beside HP filters? Are the v2 filters improved?

Thx in advance.

Excellent question.
The 197 samples is due to the lookahead limiter.
It is constant, even with limiter disabled, so that you don’t get snaps and pops when ADC value changes.
There are certain popular plugins from other developers which do change latency in response to automation and I have seen it waste a lot of expense dub-stage time chasing ghost-clicks.

197 was as low as we dared to push it, balancing the benefit of lookahead and oversampling against the latency. We were very conscious about not adding any more latency than was absolutely necessary. Again… many popular plugins do incur huge ADC offsets which puts realtime mixing passes out of sync. I don’t think people necessarily realise this.

Note that in general disabling a module (e.g. limiter) does remove the CPU load for that module, but the delay compensation stays fixed.

Advantage of v2 in your case is all the extra channel widths, better filters with continuously variable cutoff and clean automation of parameter changes. Redirect which is locked in a linkwitz-Riley crossover mode, plus automatable redirect trim.

And of course all the new features like gains, reverse redirect, limiter, spectral duck etc.

Thx you for this!!